Comments on: “No Intelligence Allowed” in the ID movement http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/ stuff and such Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:11:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alexwebmaster http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-4040 Alexwebmaster Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:08:40 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-4040 Hello webmaster I would like to share with you a link to your site write me here preonrelt@mail.ru Hello webmaster
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]]> By: Marianne http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3998 Marianne Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:03:42 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3998 Please understand that I do not really believe in any of this, I just respond sometimes to the thoughts of others. If I can contribute some clarity, I do, then let people think what they like. The previous comment was about species variation. I am just saying that has not been observed, and if it did , it would result in a new genus. Please understand that I do not really believe in any of this, I just respond sometimes to the thoughts of others. If I can contribute some clarity, I do, then let people think what they like. The previous comment was about species variation. I am just saying that has not been observed, and if it did , it would result in a new genus.

]]> By: Stephen http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3997 Stephen Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:35:16 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3997 What makes you think the simple fact of descent with modification will stop at the level of species? What makes you think the simple fact of descent with modification will stop at the level of species?

]]> By: Marianne http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3995 Marianne Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:16:37 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3995 there is a difference between a species and a new genus. There has never been an observed change like this. there is a difference between a species and a new genus. There has never been an observed change like this.

]]> By: Stephen http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3994 Stephen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:13:26 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3994 It most certainly is. Species mutate and adapt to their environments. What's to stop them from separating into two unique groups and continuing to adapt until they can no longer interbreed? Nothing. It most certainly is.

Species mutate and adapt to their environments. What’s to stop them from separating into two unique groups and continuing to adapt until they can no longer interbreed? Nothing.

]]> By: Matt http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3993 Matt Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:56:20 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3993 "It was that way to begin with" Really. And what evidence do you have to support that? Meanwhile the evidence for evolution is, once again, rather massive. Look at whale fossils, for example, where there is a clear line of changes in the blow holes and remission of legs. “It was that way to begin with”

Really. And what evidence do you have to support that?

Meanwhile the evidence for evolution is, once again, rather massive. Look at whale fossils, for example, where there is a clear line of changes in the blow holes and remission of legs.

]]> By: Marianne http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3992 Marianne Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:01:22 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3992 That is just not a scientifically logical statement. That is just not a scientifically logical statement.

]]> By: Stephen http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3991 Stephen Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:19:29 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3991 <blockquote>For example, just because there is species variation, does not mean the species is evolving.</blockquote> No. There isn't any mechanism to prevent species variation from turning two populations into unique species, therefore this <i>is</i> evidence for evolution.

For example, just because there is species variation, does not mean the species is evolving.

No. There isn’t any mechanism to prevent species variation from turning two populations into unique species, therefore this is evidence for evolution.

]]> By: Marianne http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3990 Marianne Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:26:11 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3990 Scientists attribute certain data to evolution when there is no logical connection. For example, just because there is species variation, does not mean the species is evolving. It was that way to begin with. Just because there is sequence similarity between species, does not mean one came from the other. It just means the original template was a good design, and could be modified to create different creatures. Scientists attribute certain data to evolution when there is no logical connection. For example, just because there is species variation, does not mean the species is evolving. It was that way to begin with. Just because there is sequence similarity between species, does not mean one came from the other. It just means the original template was a good design, and could be modified to create different creatures.

]]> By: Matt http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/no-intelligence-allowed-in-the-id-movement/#comment-3989 Matt Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:50:13 +0000 http://scrambled.wordpress.com/?p=597#comment-3989 Evolution is accepted as science because there is so much evidence supporting it. Judging but your comment, I doubt you know much about said evidence (or even the theory in general). Go take a look at talkorigins.org which is chock full of scientific research, papers and experiments which fully support it. As for ID research ... plenty has been done. Behe for example, as discredited as he is, has done his fair share into it. Of course, he (or anyone else for that matter) has been able to produce any evidence to support their little hypotheses. Needless to say, ID doesn't even meet the criteria to be a scientific theory anyhow (no testable mechanism, predictions, etc) so why should universities and labs divert very limited funding? To allow ID, they'd have to change the definition of science itself (as established at the Dover trial). Evolution is accepted as science because there is so much evidence supporting it. Judging but your comment, I doubt you know much about said evidence (or even the theory in general).

Go take a look at talkorigins.org which is chock full of scientific research, papers and experiments which fully support it.

As for ID research … plenty has been done. Behe for example, as discredited as he is, has done his fair share into it. Of course, he (or anyone else for that matter) has been able to produce any evidence to support their little hypotheses.

Needless to say, ID doesn’t even meet the criteria to be a scientific theory anyhow (no testable mechanism, predictions, etc) so why should universities and labs divert very limited funding? To allow ID, they’d have to change the definition of science itself (as established at the Dover trial).

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